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05/02/2018

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Ignatz

The problem with the Prickly City take is that it's Scott Santis who can't get over Hillary. Hillary is not running again. But she does have a large following, many people like her even if you don't, and she is under no obligation to "go away" just because those who dislike her want her to.

Romney actually IS running. Where are the demands that HE "go away"?

Well, you know what? I don't like him, but he's under no obligation to go away, either.

Mike Peterson

Read the Atlantic piece. A lot of former presidential candidates have a second public life, but not as "former presidential candidates."

Romney is running for Senator. She could do that. Or she could write another book about villages raising children. She has many options, particularly if she looks forward rather than backward.

And the way you start is with the phrase, "Oh, let's not go over that again ..."

Paul Berge

Tsk, tsk. Only Democrats insist that their less than successful candidates "go away."

woodrowfan

What Ignatz said. No, she's not running again. And yes, there was some sexism in opposition to her. Not with everybody of course, just as not everybody who voted against President Obama did so because of racism. But that does not mean it was not a factor..

Mike Peterson

Paul, I didn't see GHWB or Dole or McCain writing books about why they weren't elected. McCain went back to the Senate, the other two quietly went away. You can't insist that people do what they are already doing.

And I'm sure sexism was a factor in the H.Clinton campaign -- as Pat Schroeder about that, or Gerry Ferraro. Granted, Lurleen Wallace and Evita Peron managed to overcome it.

However -- and this will horrify the rightwingers -- I think the best gags Wolf made the other night were directed at the Democrats, and sitting around reworking 2016 is going to cost them another one, at least unless they use a mirror to find the problems.

Paul Berge

I'll grant that Hillary's latest book was badly conceived. (Heck, I already did - http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoon/display.cfm/163599/ ). It was Nixonian, minus the promise not to have him to kick around any more.

I was observing that unsuccessful GOP candidates such as Nixon and Reagan could get a second chance, if a losing Democrat is lucky, he/she gets the consolation prize of being named Secretary of State (Muskie, Clinton, Kerry), but is sorely resented if he/she tries for the top job again.

Brent

After the election people were crying for months about the fact that Hillary disappeared from the spotlight. And now that she's come back back, they're realizing what I was saying then... there's nothing she can really do, things need to be rebuilt, and that's a job for someone less tainted. All being out in front does now is get in the way of other people trying to step up.

So I wouldn't even look at it as a left-right difference in tossing her. She was a turd of a candidate... she had a lot of baggage. I would have hated to be responsible for running her campaign and trying to sell her. She can help in making the new message, but someone else needs to be the face (much like the Bee Gees after the death of Disco... they still wrote successful songs, but other people had to sing them, as they couldn't reinvent themselves, they got too associated with Disco to do that).

I still get a kick when the Trump people try to say that he must be good because he beat out so many top political opponents for the job... personally, I wouldn't be so proud of being the turd that floated to the top of that bowl. It was everything that countries like Russia and China have every wanted... they've been telling their people that they don't need a more liberal democracy, because that doesn't work any better. Trump winning was the icing on that cake.

Kip W

I tuned in to Blinky's Fun Club from time to time, to keep current in mocking it. I used him for column fodder on the school paper in eighth grade, and after high school, he was one of the villains in a comic book I drew (and redrew, because by the time I finished an "issue," my drawing style would have changed, so I'd go back…) called "The Creature From Channel Two." He was happy to do goon work and fight my hero, Jimmy Cool, but you could tell by his reactions to Tom Shannon riding him that he was going to turn on his master mind (provided I had ever finished the story for good—I got as far as meeting all the 'reruns' at the commissary: they were clones who did shows like Gilligan's Island, McHale's Navy, and the Addams Family).

Mike Peterson

Blinky was a god in my house, but, then, my kids were younger than you and I was older.

But Shannon was who had insisted on that movie package and Dialing for Dollars introduced me to a raft of classic films -- not just Bogey but things like "It Happened One Night" and he also awakened me to sidekicks like Alan Hale and Una O'Connor.

What was particularly fun was that, when I was in about sixth grade back East, he was Tommy Shannon at WKBW Buffalo, and so my introduction to a lot of Top 40 Bobby Rydell sorts of music. And he wrote "Wild Weekend" as his theme -- it was released as an instrumental single, but you can hear the lyrics on this aircheck:
https://youtu.be/EUkH7_GSD9A

Kip W

My favorite Tom Shannon moment was when his dog was in the studio, quietly cooling it on the floor by Tom's desk. Tom was saying something, then stopped in mid-sentence. There was some sort of sound in the studio—laughter from behind the camera? The camera pulled back to include the dog in the shot. The dog was looking simply dog-like, and (if anything) pleased with himself. Tom incredulously said to the dog, "What do they feed you?" Yup, there was definitely laughter behind the camera.

Dogs gonna dog.

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