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08/07/2017

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Ignatz

What bothers me about this is that the Yardbirds begat Led Zeppelin; the Graham Bond Organization begat Cream.

Clapton left the Yardbirds right after "For Your Love" and their main years were with Jeff Beck. He also went to the Bluesbreakers BEFORE forming Cream.

Neil Robinson

As far as the Big Chill goes, I never read them as particularly radical. They were just some UM kids who picked up a little of what was going on around them, but it wasn't central to who they were. They shrugged it off after they graduated and moved on, but maybe felt a little guilty about it.

I'm more than willing to admit that I could be misreading or misremembering the movie. Mine wasn't the generation that was being defined, after all. But I never brought that the soundtrack should have been The MC5, The Stooges, and George Clinton.

Kathleen E Donnelly

I was at UC Berkeley during the Free Speech Movement and I knew a bunch of the major movers and shakers. They didn't grow up to be the people in the movie. The Big Chill just showed some people who lived in the same Co-op and, like me, were warm bodies on the line.

Mike Peterson

Agreed that there was as much social pressure as conscience involved in choices, though most of my long-haired friends from the era continue to work in non-sell-out areas like education, medicine and local politics. But the social circle came with a soundtrack, and this wasn't it.

Even if that was only their superficial social scene, they'd have played the Stones, the Doors, the Dead, the Airplane and the band list in this cartoon. Only a brief Stones cover made it to the film -- the rest was Top 40 jock pop. They would have listened to it, but they wouldn't have owned it.

As for the begetting issue, it's not impossible to beget more than one child, and, if you're tracing Ginger Baker's Air Force, it leads back that direction. My recollection from the time was that the term "supergroup" was invented to describe Cream and Clapton was known to the general public as a former Yardbird. I don't think many Yanks had heard of the Bluesbreakers and I'm sure you could count the Graham Bond fans in this country on one hand.

I may be prejudiced by the fact that "For Your Love" was my first LP, but, still, to quote the good book (though I may be stretching the point a bit beyond the fringe), "But Led Zeppelin is an hairy man, and Cream, Cream is a smooth man."

gezorkin

Me too, Kathleen. But I didn't know anybody.

I was constantly amazed at the quality of the ad-hoc debates that happened more or less spontaneously on campus.

Kip W

I hear some country-western music from time to time. I like the instruments, but then someone always opens their gob and starts whining and I go away, always thinking the same thing: "This is sure better than what they were playing in '71."

I was riding a Fort Collins school bus for most of an hour each day, and the only station the driver's radio could get was KUAD in Windsor. Every single god-damned song was either bellicose chest-thumping or liquid self-pity, and they all sounded alike. But there was something worse: their humor.

It felt like every day that they played Hudson & Landry's "Ajax Liquor Store" 45, which consisted of one DJ calling another DJ and pretending to be a drunk calling the wrong number, after which the other DJ would repeat everything he said. "I'm a (hic) talentless hack with no sense of humor." "You're a talentless hack with no sense of humor??"

Which reminds me, I think I'll go to YouTube and look up Jerry Clower and maybe find out how much I can take of "Sittin' Up with the Dead" or "Marcel's Talkin' Chainsaw." Always been curious, just not much.

Mike Peterson

There was still some good country in '71 but that was when the sugary pop started drifting in -- "I never promised you a rose garden," etc. You had to pick and choose to get the good stuff.

You only missed it by about five years. Timing is everything.

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