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Theophylact

The bad thing about using a Nietzsche quote is having to spell "Nietzsche".

Mat

The other problem with trying to quote Aristotle, Plato and the ancient greek philosopher lot is that their beliefs and the writings connected to their beliefs are rather esoteric at best. It can be difficult to grasp if you haven't already read the book and discussed it with someone who read it multiple times.

On the other hand, philosophers of later years could be far more direct in their theories and discussions, like Hobbes, wherein Leviathan, he seems to set it out rather plainly (even if it is wrapped up in mid 17th century prose).

This, of course, varies from philosopher to philosopher. For instance, Thomas Paine's Common Sense is easier to read than the Federalist Papers...at least from what I remember. It's been > 10 years since I've read either.

Mike Peterson

Well, that's why I didn't use the quote.

I like quoting the Russians, because you can always claim you were using a different transliteration, and even do so to your benefit. Writing "Dostoevski" and "Tolstoi" suggests that you've read a great deal more of their work than those silly, superficial people who use y's.

On the other hand, if you write "Nietzsche is pietzche," it infuriates people who don't think "pitchky" is a word. Which reminds me that my then-wife worked for a new college president who was an expert on the work of Charles Peirce. Prior to his arrival, there was a fair amount of training so that nobody would slip up and say "peerce" in front of him.

As for time and clarity, I suspect the reason Aristotle is more revered than Plato, and Aquinas more than Augustine, is not for their actual theories but for their utter lack of clarity. There were several ancients who wrote interesting thoughts, but their lack of obfuscation made them less exalted in the eyes of the Academy.

Which is related to my theory of why "Braveheart" earned so many more Oscars than "Babe": They should never have washed the pig.

Mary in Ohio

Oh - wait, you meant THAT Hobbes. I was having a great vision of Calvin, Hobbes, and "Leviathan."

And Judy Collins (one of my favorite people whom I have actually met and talked to that you may have heard of. Although when explaining that to friends, I was greeted with "Who's Judy Collins?" and "Oooooo- I hated her on 'Dynasty'!") She has been through and come out the other side. "Both Sides Now," indeed.

Mike Peterson

Well, you have friends here who DO know what the hell you're talking about. Don't be a stranger!

And I knew a girl who dated her brother. So that makes us, like, cousins or something.

Mike Peterson

Oh, and, not only is "Hobbes" THAT Hobbes around here, but "Peirce" is Lincoln, not Charles.

Priorities, people. Let's maintain a little intellectual discipline, shall we?

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